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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.31 16:48:00 -
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I live by the buy orders, way to **** the game up even more for everyone except the ritalin kids CCP.
Why not eliminate the market altogether and have a giant spamfest on the trade channel?
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Posted - 2004.07.31 16:48:00 -
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I live by the buy orders, way to **** the game up even more for everyone except the ritalin kids CCP.
Why not eliminate the market altogether and have a giant spamfest on the trade channel?
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Posted - 2004.07.31 16:54:00 -
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So what, just fine the entire account to get at the alt scammers then, no beheadings for a single pimple on the nose thank you.
This is overkill as usual when trying to fix something, veto, veto I say!
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Posted - 2004.07.31 16:54:00 -
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So what, just fine the entire account to get at the alt scammers then, no beheadings for a single pimple on the nose thank you.
This is overkill as usual when trying to fix something, veto, veto I say!
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Posted - 2004.07.31 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2004 17:19:24
I accumulate all the money I need by selling goods while my buy orders are bringing me goods, seizing my funds as collateral for goods I don't even have an option on but a mere desire to buy is robbing me of funds I could use purchasing blueprints or paying for the occassional mishaps.
I can always cover my buy orders, it's never been a problem, just not all of them in a second as there's just that many of them, there has to be to keep me from getting bored out of my mind.
Give the ones who fail a standings hit with the corporation in whos station they abuse the market or something, be creative not destructive thank you.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2004 17:19:24
I accumulate all the money I need by selling goods while my buy orders are bringing me goods, seizing my funds as collateral for goods I don't even have an option on but a mere desire to buy is robbing me of funds I could use purchasing blueprints or paying for the occassional mishaps.
I can always cover my buy orders, it's never been a problem, just not all of them in a second as there's just that many of them, there has to be to keep me from getting bored out of my mind.
Give the ones who fail a standings hit with the corporation in whos station they abuse the market or something, be creative not destructive thank you.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.31 17:22:00 -
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Oh really, how about these excellent market features being presented about the same time the nerfs are then to give a fair portrait of the market?
They're not exactly selling anything proclaiming the market is taking a turn for the worse and not mentioning any upside. The one upside, to avoid these elusive scammers, is just too small to warrant the wholesale slaughter of the trade business as it still exists.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 17:22:00 -
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Oh really, how about these excellent market features being presented about the same time the nerfs are then to give a fair portrait of the market?
They're not exactly selling anything proclaiming the market is taking a turn for the worse and not mentioning any upside. The one upside, to avoid these elusive scammers, is just too small to warrant the wholesale slaughter of the trade business as it still exists.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.31 17:39:00 -
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Orestes, I have the money, I just don't expect all my 1000 buy orders to kick in at the same time, therefor I never need to shell them all out and can invest further all the while I'm making new money to cover the old buy orders with my sell orders, much like I'd imagine the market works in the real world. With corporations not having all liquid funds but an expected revenue and a credit rating to match.
You add that depth to the market instead, credit ratings and such to allow legit longterm bigtime traders some elbowroom then you can squeeze your fresh alt scammers as much as you like.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 17:39:00 -
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Orestes, I have the money, I just don't expect all my 1000 buy orders to kick in at the same time, therefor I never need to shell them all out and can invest further all the while I'm making new money to cover the old buy orders with my sell orders, much like I'd imagine the market works in the real world. With corporations not having all liquid funds but an expected revenue and a credit rating to match.
You add that depth to the market instead, credit ratings and such to allow legit longterm bigtime traders some elbowroom then you can squeeze your fresh alt scammers as much as you like.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2004 17:56:30
We live on the expectation of sales, not having the cash at hand prevents us from planning ahead making new investments for other people to benefit from.
I will not buy that 50k noxcium thinking I will bring it with me the next time I'm out here to sell at a profit should I not have enough risk capital at hand. Longterm high-risk investments will take a nosedive.
This may not even be my primary trade, I just happen to stumple on a good deal whilst trading something completely different. What this restriction does is dampen the incentive to invest in perhaps new and uncertain markets.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2004 17:56:30
We live on the expectation of sales, not having the cash at hand prevents us from planning ahead making new investments for other people to benefit from.
I will not buy that 50k noxcium thinking I will bring it with me the next time I'm out here to sell at a profit should I not have enough risk capital at hand. Longterm high-risk investments will take a nosedive.
This may not even be my primary trade, I just happen to stumple on a good deal whilst trading something completely different. What this restriction does is dampen the incentive to invest in perhaps new and uncertain markets.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.31 18:02:00 -
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People do that all the time, it's called capitalism.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 18:02:00 -
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People do that all the time, it's called capitalism.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.31 18:21:00 -
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'Cause there's increased profit in increased quantity, it's that simple.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 18:21:00 -
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'Cause there's increased profit in increased quantity, it's that simple.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.31 18:28:00 -
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That's your beef with volume then, I seldom limit anything by volume.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 18:28:00 -
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That's your beef with volume then, I seldom limit anything by volume.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.31 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2004 18:56:36
What real world are you living in? Here they sell thin air, fat air, constopated air and spammed air every day, it's how it works, you need to have the notion of having money to make money, not the money itself.
This would be something like taking a loan with your house as security and have you not being able to live in the house all the while...
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Posted - 2004.07.31 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2004 18:56:36
What real world are you living in? Here they sell thin air, fat air, constopated air and spammed air every day, it's how it works, you need to have the notion of having money to make money, not the money itself.
This would be something like taking a loan with your house as security and have you not being able to live in the house all the while...
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.31 19:29:00 -
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Buy orders are options to buy, we're not actually tapping into someone elses funds, just relying on the market to provide us with the room to operate.
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Posted - 2004.07.31 19:29:00 -
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Buy orders are options to buy, we're not actually tapping into someone elses funds, just relying on the market to provide us with the room to operate.
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Posted - 2004.08.01 12:05:00 -
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That's just it, you don't see and you haven't read the thread.
Sure I have the money to foot that bill but then I can put up no other secondary speculative buy orders but are confined to that one order I then will have sit and watch getting filled little by little, risking terminal boredom.
This change improve nothing in terms of gameplay and means the market will become boring, ****can this change please.
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Posted - 2004.08.01 12:05:00 -
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That's just it, you don't see and you haven't read the thread.
Sure I have the money to foot that bill but then I can put up no other secondary speculative buy orders but are confined to that one order I then will have sit and watch getting filled little by little, risking terminal boredom.
This change improve nothing in terms of gameplay and means the market will become boring, ****can this change please.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.08.01 12:10:00 -
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If I could renew them from afar and otherwise manage them perhaps but going around every place I conduct business and enter tiny buy orders every other day would be more of a chore than any fun and games.
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Posted - 2004.08.01 12:10:00 -
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If I could renew them from afar and otherwise manage them perhaps but going around every place I conduct business and enter tiny buy orders every other day would be more of a chore than any fun and games.
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Posted - 2004.08.01 12:32:00 -
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Nice to see skills added but a galaxy wide market too, it's the trade channel all over again, here comes the PTS.  
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Posted - 2004.08.01 12:32:00 -
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Nice to see skills added but a galaxy wide market too, it's the trade channel all over again, here comes the PTS.
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Posted - 2004.08.01 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 01/08/2004 23:56:35
You cannot clonejump either to be part of every major battle in the galaxy in the real world, so lets put a leash on all the PvP people to keep them around the same place.
I don't actually care for the real world analogy with creditors, when such a system isn't operational in EVE the whole argument is out the window.
What CCP is doing is taking away trading fun and games for no benefit. If they wanted to curve the numbers of buy orders just introduce the trade skill and have how many orders you can have at any given time depend on how good you're there. As is now the trade skill does nothing.
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Posted - 2004.08.01 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 01/08/2004 23:56:35
You cannot clonejump either to be part of every major battle in the galaxy in the real world, so lets put a leash on all the PvP people to keep them around the same place.
I don't actually care for the real world analogy with creditors, when such a system isn't operational in EVE the whole argument is out the window.
What CCP is doing is taking away trading fun and games for no benefit. If they wanted to curve the numbers of buy orders just introduce the trade skill and have how many orders you can have at any given time depend on how good you're there. As is now the trade skill does nothing.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.08.02 00:08:00 -
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Why would they ask for credit reference or a deposit when he's paying cash on delivery?
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Posted - 2004.08.02 00:08:00 -
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Why would they ask for credit reference or a deposit when he's paying cash on delivery?
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Posted - 2004.08.02 15:35:00 -
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You'd still have to visit the region as it was not a galaxy wide market, yet.
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Posted - 2004.08.02 15:35:00 -
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You'd still have to visit the region as it was not a galaxy wide market, yet.
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Posted - 2004.08.02 20:23:00 -
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If the market goes galaxy wide why not just stick everyone in the same system to have an endless king of the hill?
The purpose with multiple systems will be gone, no mystique left, no incentive to travel, no diversity. You might as well scrap the market system and hand everyone their modules and proclaim it counterstrike in space and spend all the effort on making it a FPS.
It's a very good thing Orestes is only a moderator.
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Posted - 2004.08.02 20:23:00 -
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If the market goes galaxy wide why not just stick everyone in the same system to have an endless king of the hill?
The purpose with multiple systems will be gone, no mystique left, no incentive to travel, no diversity. You might as well scrap the market system and hand everyone their modules and proclaim it counterstrike in space and spend all the effort on making it a FPS.
It's a very good thing Orestes is only a moderator.
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Posted - 2004.08.02 22:58:00 -
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How about we do some field study on nuclear winter too?
What is the actual problem with the current system that can't be fixed without nuking it?
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Posted - 2004.08.02 22:58:00 -
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How about we do some field study on nuclear winter too?
What is the actual problem with the current system that can't be fixed without nuking it?
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Posted - 2004.08.03 12:15:00 -
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Seriously? I never read the Market forum, with them highways I can get everything I want myself so there's no reason.
I can imagine only the people who like the trade channel actually make use of the market forum and if that holds true then they're all enjoying one big grouphug already.
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Posted - 2004.08.03 12:15:00 -
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Seriously? I never read the Market forum, with them highways I can get everything I want myself so there's no reason.
I can imagine only the people who like the trade channel actually make use of the market forum and if that holds true then they're all enjoying one big grouphug already.
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